Wednesday, June 9, 2010

Show mercy, kill them already!

If a plane crashed down, food was lost and you wanted to survive, do you eat the retards first or the people healthiest of mind?

Now now dear readers, do have the courtesy to hold your comments until the end of the post, Krampus is going somewhere with this. I mean, you don't want to be like some idiots aspiring to be invertebrate plague carriers taking words completely out of context, do you? No? Good. Now kindly shut the fuck up and keep reading!

I mean, it's a simple question, isn't it? We all wonder about life, death, the work one's ancestors put in to achieve your place on the food chain. Deep down inside all of us, some deeper or more shallow than others, is an instinct, a need for survival, a need to adapt to dangerous situations. And let's be fair and honest, some are better equipped to survive than others. There have always been lesser people, stragglers more easily picked off amongst the herd, the slack and chaff that some would allow, or insist, that they fall so the herd, or more capable members within the herd will survive another day. So let's talk about the crash example again, and what to do for food. Who would you slay and eat if need be? Would you go for the weaker, the genetically inferior? I dunno, if you eat a 'tard, don't you run the risk of becoming one too, kinda like Mad Cow Disease? Or would you go after someone that you genuinely disliked or hated, devouring their flesh and their power like Mana as the Maori Warriors once did? OOoh, here's one. What if somehow you could overpower one of the healthier people, yet it combined all of the above? What if it was someone that was a decent physical specimen so you have all the nourishment issues covered, someone who acted in a way you disliked, and what if there was a possibility that due to their actions and possible insanity, you'd actually be putting someone fitting the criteria out of their misery? It makes sense after all, that guy over there enjoys getting his nuts kicked in and can't tell a raccoon from a bear. It's not like he'd be missed, right? Sorry Tothian, nothing personal. But on this crash site, Krampus is a survivor. Now get in my belly and fertilize my crops in twelve hours!

Ladies and gentlemen, the above was a dramatization. I of course mean no ill will to crash survivors, the mentally retarded or impaired, the physically handicapped, people that simply annoy me and believing that they deserve to die because of it, nor to Tothian. But I wrote it to make a point. You see, recently it has come to my attention that Tothian has stated that the mentally challenged should be dispatched, I could be mistaken but I believe he said drowned, to save them from the pains of living in a life that they would be at a lifelong disadvantage otherwise. I also believe this was addressed to a member on the RLSH board, Wildcat.

I'll be honest, Wildcat has messaged me several times, speaking like a child and running the risk of being so sweet as her very presence online could give someone cavities and risk of a diabetic coma. I have no wish to befriend or speak to the woman, in my personal opinion I'd have little to speak to her about, and she tends to be clingy to people on the forum. I want nothing to do with her. With that said, I don't believe the girl warrants a smartass comment that she and everyone like her should be euthanized. That which you speak of smacks of Nazi Eugenic cleansing. And Krampus is NO friend of anyone or anything Nazi.

Recently Dreizehn, someone who's threatened the body parts of Krampus on more than one occasion, spoke out about this outrage, leading Tothian to be suspended from the forum for one week, causing Superhero to egress in protest, and I believe another, but may be back now. She spoke of challenging the administrators on this action, and in doing so has been banned as well. I may not agree with her exact words or how she went about it, but she addressed a bullying remark, and stood up in the face of the one who said it, and those who she felt didn't do enough to deal with the problem. That I admire. Krampus knows firsthand that truth isn't always pretty, it can be disturbing, vulgar, even downright hideous. It can enflame one's sensibilities and soul, stirring one to action because if it hurts in just the right spot, then maybe something will be done about it. Krampus has done this in the past, and to be honest, has felt as of late as may be becoming a tad bit rusty.

I don't agree with everything that has gone on recently in the community. The rushing to defend people whose banner has inspired harassing, and potentially criminal activity when they refuse to acknowledge that anything they do or have done is wrong, the stepping around on eggshells for fear of escalating hostilities. 'Twould even seem that attempts to do just that have instead acted as pouring water on an oil fire, it's only splashed and spread. And now this debacle? At the very least Tothian, hate someone for the nature of their actions and character and not their genetics. Nor their deficiencies.

Tothian, I won't lie to you. My respect for you has dropped somewhat because of your statement. I believe that your heart may be in the right place, but it's thoughts and words like the ones you've used that others have easily turned into desire and acting upon them. Krampus came into this community to keep an eye on and call out bullies, harassing those who did not deserve it. As of right now, in my eyes you're barely better than any member of ROACH or their allies. And worse, you've given them ammunition to claim they've been right about your instability and how dangerous you are, the very words they've said about you and others all along! In your standings, you're becoming the very thing you're supposed to fight against! Do these words have ANY impact on you? What hurts more, the sanctioning, the words I say, the reactions of your peers, the fact that you're proving someone on the other side of the fence as correct? Damn you idiot, you've given them validity to their bile and turned some who have defended and stood beside you against you, or away from you at least.

Despite it all, I do believe that your heart can be in the right place, and good can be done. But if you want back the respect you once had, you have to earn it back from here on. I suggest you get started, you've got a lengthy trip.

That's another thing that's been stuck in my craw for some time. Krampus has given leniency to some that I've not agreed with, but chalking it up to one's eccentricities. Master Legend's comments about homosexuals, Tothian's words to the mentally challenged, and those whose continued verbal toxins being spewed against those I know and feel strongly for as if a demonic case of Tourette's Syndrome has infected them. For the sake of peace, of understanding, attempts have been made to reach out, to understand, to try to keep a modicum of peace. But in my honest opinion, it seems that some do not want peace. Some simply look for an excuse to unleash their energies, their venoms, their anger, their hatred. This is something Krampus knows all too well. And since we're expressing ourselves at risk of being ostracized or disliked by our peers, perhaps it's time to speak mine.

From the very beginning of Krampus' existence in the blogosphere and community, I knew that one day through word or action, I would say or perform an action so polarizing, that many of you whom I would call acquaintance, listener, or even friend, would find yourselves bewildered, having to face where they stand in relation to where I stand, and not only would friendships be strained, but possibly lost, perhaps even turning the focus of the RLSH community against me. That's right folks, I knew that in the process of stating my own truth and opinion, friends may be lost because of what I believe to be right. I believed that the day would come later. Perhaps it will come now, who knows. But now is the time for such a truth.

Hero, villain, stranger, friend, the title doesn't matter. I don't care who you are, what side of the fence you may be on, if you are known to me or unknown. Krampus will NOT allow ANYONE to attack anyone I call friend without defending them, possibly with reprisal. If you're one friend and have a beef with another, then it's between you two. But if the actions of one threatens to harm another, no, that's not going to happen on my watch. Trying to talk, to parley and find a peaceful solution is good, it's admirable to stop confrontation without violence. But sometimes, and I was recently reminded of this, sometimes the fight comes to you. Sometimes you can't reason with it, you can't run from it, and help may not be coming as fast as one would hope. If you see something wrong that threatens to oppress or harm you or another, stranger or friend, sometimes you have to stand up to face it. You have to hold your ground and tell the threat, the circumstance, the person or persons that threaten to crash into you like a wave who you are, the strength of your character and declare it to all in the universe that you're not going to be demeaned, belittled, walked upon and treated as if you do not exist nor matter. Sometimes you have to take a stand.

Words, threats, fists, weapons, sometimes you can ignore them. Other times, one must rise against what they perceive to be a wrong. Dreizehn did it, it may not have been the same way I'd have handled it, but she stood up. And it's the strength of one's character and resolve I acknowledge and respect. It's why I respect DC's Guardian and his ilk so strongly. And I know for a fact that many of you reading this have to take hard stands as well, I know it hasn't always been easy! But if you look back, can you look at yourselves in honesty and say that if you didn't stand the way you did at a certain place or time, then you'd never have the strength of character to stand for anything you'd believe in? Have you had that defining moment where you stood up to something because you didn't agree with it?

I have gay friends, it's not my choice or preference but I accept my friends for who they are. Master Legend has said some disparaging remarks against those in the gay community, but I try to see someone who has their heart in the right place and tries to do good, so I don't give power to his words. But if someone physically threatened my friend with harm, standing in front of me and I were the only one between them and my friends possibly facing a hate crime, I don't care if it were someone in a suit, a skinhead or KKK member, someone that resembled Master Legend or someone in an official uniform, if they're going to attack someone who did nothing to provoke such an attack, I'm standing up to them. I may be hurt, crippled, arrested or even killed, but I'm making the stand. The same goes for any ROACH member or ally with Skiffytowners behind me, or someone that looks like Tothian in front of me and someone that looks like Wildcat or Corky from Life Goes On behind me. THIS WILL NOT GO WITHOUT A STAND. I;d rather not have to fight, Tothian we were getting a bit casually chummy and I'm not even Wildcat's friend. But if you want to call yourself my friend, start earning my respect back. Otherwise if you become the thug that others claim you to be and you have someone undeserving in your crosshairs, I WILL stand against you and anyone that behaves like a danger to others. And Krampus is capable of reciprocating with interest, no one wants to be on the receiving end of the wrath of someone who at times has been suicidal and raging against you as a perceived threat. If any of you takes something away from this, know that peace can be a good thing to fight for. But sometimes, you may have to actually fight for something. Or someone.

Show me where you stand.

15 comments:

  1. Not how it went down. Tothian was already Permabanned by the time Dreizehn chimed in. I will forward to you what I forward to Mixsae about what happened with Tothian.

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  2. Ahhh, I look forward to getting more of the story, this is the crap I've been hearing about in the blogosphere. Thank you for filling in the gaps.

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  3. I'd like to know the full story as well. I am a father of a child who has a very mild strain of autism. He has issues of hyperactivity thus it's a bit harder for him to focus and learn like regular people. He drives me crazy sometimes but at the end of the day I still love him to death and would lay down my life for him without hesitation. This issue hits a little home for me and I'd like to know what the real deal is.

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  4. Hmmm, no. Dreizehn wasn't banned for being the internet equivalent of the Tiananmen-tankman, standing up to 'people in power', she was banned for comments like this: http://www.therlsh.net/public-forum-f8/the-times-they-are-a-changin-t3806.htm#62479

    While I know (not 'believe', but KNOW) that Tothian is indeed a scumbag with a checkered past of being a little creep, that is still no reason to get as aggressive towards the staff as Dreizehn got. I'm sure she was all pent up with emotion and was caught up in the moment, but it's not really a surprise she was banned. When you call someone who's holding the banhammer nutless getting kicked off the forum is something you just kinda have to already know to expect.

    As for Wildcat, I also get private messages from her and we talk to each other almost daily. It's not that I'm humoring her or just 'trying to be nice', it's that I'm genuinely interested in fellow members of the community, even if I am on "the other side of the fence".

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  5. I know, and as I stated, I don't agree with what was said, but I respected the fact that she perceived a wrong and was prepared to stand against it, even if she was more hot tempered and threatening about it.

    I've also talked to Zetaman privately and have been told more information. Admittedly, some of the information I based this post on may have been less than with all known facts. But at the time, I saw a situation requiring something to be said. I'm sure more will follow in the coming days.

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  6. Not making excuses for her, not condoning what she did or what she said. She was upset about the information she had been given. She was upset more when I told her I had quit the forum. She also was not in the condition to use her best judgement and I had told her to stay off the internet. She is accepting the consequences for her actions and is not complaining about the banning and understands. Mr Jack already posted a link to her comments and I've spoken with Zeta privately.Very few have all the facts and know all the circumstances. I would advice against assuming anything and trying to speculate or gossip mongering on it.She was wound up, she reacted and she was wrong in how she did it. But I'm not gonna knock her or stand by and let others do it for believing strongly enough and caring to not take a stand. Based off what she knew at the time is how she re-acted....taking a stand...right....how she did it...wrong. Not taking my advice to get off the internet....not the wisest choice.

    It's done, she's banned...

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  7. You know, I remember posting that link to Driezehn's comments, but for some reason I cannot seem to find it. Can anyone tell me where it went? At least Malvado's link is still there though, so this is good.

    There have been a lot of people reacting lately out of often misplaced anger and poor thinking. As I have said elsewhere, this progresses to nothing. If we continue to dig up old wounds, then there can be no healing, no? If we harness and hold old grudges then there can be no moving on from that point. Dreizehn, Tothian, Superhero, Mixsae, and many others all have a lot of history with people, and while it is good to maintain a strong stance on what you believe, there must come times when you open your eyes and realize that the pain you cause yourself with the hurts of past will only keep you from moving forward as a person.

    Superhero is contemplating moving back to forum, admittedly due to Tothian's absence, but also because he is missed and there are people there who do care about him. I believe he knows this, and as a hardy of example to which all RLSH should aspire to he has shown the way for us to recover from such events.

    The pain of a grudge against past angers only hurts one person: yourself. The RLSH community is going through a lot of change right now, but the main thing we must all remember is that if we are to get through these times we must be willing to forgive, especially forgive ourselves. We each need help. I know I do.

    If we each choose to move on, I believe that we can further the development of our community and help set a great example for a new generation of men and women in our community.

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  8. Your post is still right where you left it!

    http://thetalesandthoughtsofkrampus.blogspot.com/2010/06/sword-kane-update-66-and-birth-of-word.html#comments

    So yeah..it's really a good thing Malvado added a link as well.

    Funny you have issues with Dreizhen but Tothian attacking people and your pals in ROACH (and their associates) regularly verbally abuse people and it doesn't seem to be any issues with them doing it. In fact, you claim we're all your friends and family.

    You can stop counting me in that mix....seriously. If being a verbal abuser and enabling them to continue is your idea of a Utopian society...count me out.

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  9. Mr. Jack I agree with you about moving on. I think ultimately it is best for the RLSH community. However, I have to make a point regarding what Mixsae, Krampus, and what Driezehn did and sometimes do. They do it because they get tired of being the verbal and emotional punching bag of alot people out there, some of them being RLSV and some not. As of late though, the RLSV have focused a great deal of unsavory banter against them. So I would say that I agree when you say we have to move on. However, if for example Krampus and Mixsae really do decide to move on but other "powers that be" keep sliding back to degrading them on a verbal and emotional level then where is the fairness in that? It's not good to hold old grudges - I agree with you there. But neither is it fair for people to reignite old grudges with slanderous and libelous actions. Salt rubbed on an open wound still stings. It needs to stop from both sides and until it does things like this will keep happening.

    The RLSH need to move on and leave the RLSVs alone.
    The RLSVs need to move on and leave the RLSH alone.
    Neither side likes to be judged. That is painfully obvious. So with that said, each side needs to walk away from the strife and the hate TOGETHER. It's bullshit (excuse my language) for the RLSH or their supporters to be the only way to walk away from the hate. And those that choose to embrace the hate and continue to rip the other side or their own with wanton strife and suffering need to be stood up to and admonished on their behavior. This is what Krampus strives for - to point out when either side is acting like jackasses.

    And dear God I can't beleive I'm going to say this but I agree with Malvado. I don't like Tothian. I hope Malvados recent turn for betterment is sincere. The fact that Tothian might have done hundreds of good things for the RLSH community does not afford him the right or the power to do equally or near equally heinous things and when confronted fall back on his cushion of good deeds. That's b.s. - plain and simple.

    Dreizhen lost her cool and handled the situation wrong. But as to why she was upset well I can't completely disagree with it. She choose to confront a the problem with a heavy hand but it was still something that needed to be confronted.

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  10. You're wrong Jingles....I moved on, I quit RLSH.net. As I told Zeta, I have no issues with the RLSV being on the board. In fact I told him to invite them all on. I think it's fair.

    But at the same time, Zeta only holds people accountable for what they do on that board. He has no control over their actions on their blogs (nor should he)

    My beef was with a moderator who insisted on forcing his ideals upon me and not respecting my personal choice or my personal freedom. Notice he said "our" community. It's not mine...in my mind it's "the community". People are going to continue their rhetoric on their blogs...but that can't be taken into consideration on the forum. And I'm not going to idly sit by and watch my friends...my family...and others being used as verbal victims by a group of bullies and have a moderator dictate to me that the abusers are my friends and my family when they're not.

    Drezhen called a spade a spade..she got banned. This isn't the forum Mr Jack...if you're going to point the finger at her, why don't you go pull up the blogs of your friends and family...call them out for the same behavior (and worse.) Treat all equally, stop pouring gasoline on it and claiming you don't want a flame war when what you're doing is instigating it.

    Your views are not my own, your opinions are not mine. You don't speak for me nor do you dictate to me.

    I am not going to stop doing what I've done for the last three years when I've only had limited interaction with you over the last 2 months.

    I didn't need your approval then or your leadership, and I don't need it now. Continue to preach to those that will listen and don't expect me too.

    Because you consider someone a friend doesn't mean what they did and continue to do isn't wrong...and to condone someone doing it becuase you consider them a friend and crucifying another for doing a lesser offense...thats just wrong and thats MY opinion.


    And to qoute Cap...since it came up in conversation with someone I respect and consider friend...and family.
    "Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something is wrong, or something is right. The nation was founded on one principle above all else: The requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth and tell the world, "No, you move."

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  11. Mr. Jingles, your words are truly wise as ever. It is a two way street of progress. The RLSV must stop being so childish and rude in their actions and words. How then are people ever to move on from such drama? Seriously. It is like Mixsae with me: if she continues to hold onto her deluded rage at me and slandering and calling me names wherever she goes, how will we ever move on?

    The person who is being attacked, as hard and as unfair as this may be, must ignore the attacker if they persist. This is often the only way such progress can be made with such pointless drama. If the victim then gives into returning the favor, they just start a cycle of anger towards others. They become the aggressor, in other words.

    This is the classic issue of trauma transference. It happens with many cultures and people, but it is a cycle we must break. It is a hard one, and we must be ardent in our desire for change with people like ROACH, but we must not return the hatred. That only fills us the with the hate we seek to release.

    Mixsae, you can honestly say whatever you want about me, but I have to tell you that continuing to slander and rage against a person who is probably half your age is neither good for you or for me. Your words hurt, and I really do not understand why you continue to attack when you must know that it also makes you look rather poor in your actions. Seriously: right now, with what you have said, can you honestly count yourself better than the people who have done the same to you? I do not say this to insult, but I really do not think that you see the connection.

    The point is this though: no matter what others say, our actions speak for themselves. You can try and twist what I did and said into any way you like, but I think you will find few who agree with your interpretation. I mean no harm. I just want pointless drama such as this to die. But if you continue to dwell on this with such veracity I do not see how you will ever overcome your own issues and be able to solve those of other’s effectively.

    Think on it. And try to do better with your actions. You anger with this only hurts you and those around you, and less importantly me. Think on it. That is all I ask of you.

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  12. Slander?

    Exactly where and what names have I supposedly called you?

    I got your message on Facebook...I've read through all my comments. Not once have or I or anyone called you any sort of name. Yes, I have expressed frustration over the situation, but no name calling...not my style.

    Unless you are refering to the "Ik the Troll"...who is a friend of mine from the Faire circuit and an accomplished actor and personality in his own right.

    Google him if you don't believe me. He also left a comment on the Blogtalk Radio show for Creature Feature last week....

    Or you must think I refered to you as "ceiling cat"

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  13. HEY HEY HEY HEY! *turns off the master water switch* Bloody hell! Now I'm going to smell like wet goat all day. There's a reason I don't go to the local pool, you know!

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  14. I'm not the one dragging anything out! Goat-legged Christmas demon, hello!!

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